and in ways that those disciplines -- you know, one of steve jobs last speeches was actually just about that point. but that is less attention than the focus of the foundation, which is heard much on training people for jobs. there is a strong cool and political society again, the idea is being talked about. >> let me comment on that for a moment. because i think that to get traction, you have to be sensitive to the realities. for example, when we put the title on the national academy study of the future of the research university, while we follow along with the idea that prosperity is important, i insisted on adding the words prosperity and security. the reason for that is that we have congress right now that certainly gives lip service to jobs, but they give money to security. okay? if you look at states right now, simplistic approach is to say that we are going to. if you get sick, the only place you're really going to get care that is our hospitals. we don't only access international markets for wealth, but we access international markets for human talent. we are one of the few inst